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Donnie Brown PCM Interview
 
The wedding day for most people is one of the most stressful of their lives. So how has wedding planner Donnie Brown, JWIC survived more than 2,000 of them? He has a secret weapon. "I try to use humor on a day-to-day basis," he says, "humor makes the day more fun."

But Brown's warm and wacky sense of humor has done more than just smooth over nuptial nerves; it's also made him a reality TV star. Fans of the Style Network's top-rated reality show, Whose Wedding Is It Anyway?, tune in regularly to watch Brown and other big-city wedding planners pull out all the stops to give couples the weddings of their dreams. With his clever one-liners and gregarious personality, Texas native Brown quickly became a fan favorite.

Brown has survived some of a planner's worst nightmares during Weddings' eight seasons, including a stained wedding dress and a cake threatening to topple; all while mastering grace under pressure on camera!

Brown's career as wedding guru began at age 16 in Lubbock, Texas by helping out some friends who owned a floral shop with weekend weddings. It also proved a lucrative enough hobby to allow Brown to put himself through college at Texas Tech University. In 1994 he went pro, opening Dallas-based Five Star Floral Design and Events. Soon, Brown had established a reputation in town as a top-notch wedding professional. His clients appreciated his talents with floral arrangements and décor; but more so, his lighthearted approach to a process that can quickly become overwhelming.

PCM's Kristyn Clarke and Khusbu Joshi had the recent opportunity to chat with Donnie about the wedding industry from tips to recreating lavish celebrity nuptials to some of the strangest requests he has encountered.... Read on!

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Q: Now must be quite the busy time for weddings and such, how are things going?

Donnie Brown: Oh, it's crazy. We had a little bit of slowing down right after the first of the year like everyone else did, but we seem to be recovering much more quickly than most. We are booking weddings like crazy and in the middle of weddings that were already booked.

Q: That is good to hear! So I am sure that people have to find joy in something these days. I think that delving head first into wedding planning can get everyone's' mind off of other problems for a little while.
D.B: Of course it can! These are the times in our lives that we remember, so we want to try to outweigh the bad with the good.
Q: What is your favorite aspect of working in the wedding industry?
DB: I have always said that my favorite part is the time when the bride and groom get to see the reception site for the first time and we always try to set that up before the guests arrive and are let into the room. There is a quiet calm. I always evacuate all the staff to make sure it is completely empty so that the bride and groom can come in and just peruse around and see how everything turned out, it is just a wonderful moment. We try to make sure that happens for couples, because it will never look that way again. Once the guests come in, it is all over! (laughs)
Q: With such a huge focus on celebrity weddings that we see on the cover of all the tabloids, what are some tips or advice you can share with us to help us replicate some of these lavish weddings that many of us would not be able to afford?
DB: There are lots of different things that you can do! Obviously the celebrity weddings set the trends, but then the wedding industry works very hard to try to create some semblance of "reach ability" from those trends. What you see in celebrity weddings is lighting, elaborate centerpieces, beautiful linen, a lot of drapery and ceiling treatments. All of these things are attainable to any bride that wants them. For instance, in Dallas there used to be only one company that had lounge furniture available to rent and in the past year we have had seven more companies pop up. And of course they are all fighting for every piece of business they can get like everyone else is, so costs are not as bad as you might think. You can actually get celebrity-style custom lounge furniture in your wedding for less than 3,000 dollars.
Q: Wow! That is impressive! I think everyone has the idea ingrained in their head that it is so expensive they could never dream of affording it! I am sure there are plenty of ways to get around it!

DB: There are, and you know one of the things that sets an ordinary wedding apart from a splashy celebrity wedding are ways of covering up a ballroom and such! Obviously hotel ballrooms are used so much these days and they are used for a reason, because they have all the stuff you need. You don't have to rent all of it. More and more brides are learning to cover up what looks like a ballroom by creating a space that is all their own with draperies, foliages, ceiling treatments and things that you can do that really aren't all that expensive in the end. You would be surprised, you can turn a room into whatever you want it to look like. The pictures on TV and in magazines from celebrity wedding planners, you see a lot of draperies and ways to cover up a room and the lighting they use to create an ambiance that is custom fitted for the wedding.

Q: Back to the celebrity weddings that we spoke about earlier, do you have any favorites?
DB: Oh, I have a lot of favorites. (laughs) We can look at Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt's wedding for instance, I think it is a shame he had nothing more to wear than a pair of jeans and some tennis shoes. (laughs)
Q: (laughs) Yeah that is pretty bad! 'Cause you know he is oh so famous!
DB: Well, I know, come on! He could have at least put on a pair of slacks. I dress like that to go to the grocery store!
Q: (laughs)
DB: So, I thought that was a little bit unfortunate! She looked cute in her little, fairy dress, I thought that was nice, but all in all it was a little dressed down for my taste. Other weddings that I thought have been really nice were of course Leann Rimes. I did that wedding so, I have to say so, but also I thought Orlando Joneses was very pretty; also the Ivanka Trump wedding, it was over the top but it was just unbelievable. And to have Donald Trump coordinate the whole thing, I mean come on, how often do you see something like that happen?
Q: (laughs) What was one of the most expensive or over the top weddings that you personally had to plan?

DB: I did a wedding for one of the Pulitzer granddaughters and it was nearly a million dollars. It was funny because the groom's family didn't come from that kind of background. And after the ceremony, when the reception was in full swing, people were just dancing, the cake had been cut and the groom's family took out the flowers from the centerpieces and threw them on the floor and danced on them.

Q: Did they really?
DB: Yeah, that was something I have to say!
Q: I have to ask, what is the strangest request you have ever encountered and how did you make it work?
DB: I am going to give you two! One that really wasn't all that strange, but to me was just undo-able, but we ended up making it work. It was a bride who wanted all the guests in her Catholic cathedral ceremony to have a candle in their hand. My first thought was, 'well, this isn't an AIDS Walk, it's not a vigil, why would you want everyone to have a candle? Also, is the priest even going to allow everyone to have a candle in his sanctuary?' You have to realize that 300 people with an open-flame candle, that could get kind of dangerous, but he let her do it! The funny part was that the mother of the bride was a little on the hammered side, so she was sitting in her seat and she was divorced so she had some girlfriend sitting next to her, and these little girls went down the rows with candles and everyone had a candle in a cup just like you would have at a vigil. The little girls were lighting the peoples' candles at the end of each pew, then they would pass the candle light down till everyone had a candle lit. Well of course the mother of the bride was the last one, being the front left. She reached over and when the little girl lit her candle, she stood there and looked at it for a minute, then the woman next to her, who was a friend of hers, bumped her as to say "light my candle, too," so she leaned over and lit her candle. When she did, hot wax spilled out of the cup and hit her on the top of the left foot!
Q: Oh, No! Ouch!
DB: And she screamed out something that I can only say would be something I have never heard screamed out in a Catholic church. (laughs)
Q: Oh, man, that is horrible (laughs)
DB: Yeah, it was pretty funny. (laughs) That was one of them, and the other one I had was interesting because it was a multi-cultural wedding, an Asian bride with a Middle-Eastern groom. When I was having my final detailing with them I asked, 'So, how do you want to enter?' The groom stated that he wanted the bride to make her entrance to the altar and then he wanted to make his entrance last. Which of course I thought was ridiculous and so did the bride. She was not going for it. So we turned it around and did it the right way. However, he wanted to wear a cape and enter to the tune of Superman under a spotlight!
Q: Oh, my gosh!! (laughs)
DB: Which he did! And he got exactly the response that he wanted, everyone burst out laughing and that was the only laughter I had heard all day because he was 45 minutes late and he and the bride had a huge fight before the ceremony. We were glad to have laughter of any kind that day. I also had another groom who was a conservative Republican and he entered to "Hail to the Chief."(laughs)
Q: (laughs)
DB: You would be surprised at what people ask for! It is funny for me being on Whose Wedding Is It Anyway, for all these years because it really isn't my wedding so whatever they want they can have. I try to talk them out of it, sometimes...
Q: What would your perfect wedding be?

DB: I had my perfect wedding. It was small and it was not over the top. It was held in my backyard, around my pool, on my arbor and all of our best family and friends were there and it was absolutely perfect! To me, it doesn't have to be wild and over the top

Q: Yeah, you know sometimes I think that type of wedding can be just as beautiful and memorable as something lavish and off the wall, like you said.
DB: Of course! My memories of that day are as memorable as any other I can ever think, or anyone else that I have ever helped get married.
Q: What do you feel it is about a show like Whose Wedding Is It Anyway that resonates well with viewers?
DB: We are currently filming Season 10! First of all, I think you have to put all the wedding shows together, combine them together and see what they have in common. Obviously they have something in common, something that everybody either remembers fondly or wants desperately, so those two things combined create an arena that's really sought after and people want to see it. Whose Wedding Is It Anyway stands apart from the other shows. They were really smart when they did this because if you think about it, every time you tune in and you see Bridezillas or you see Platinum Weddings or whatever those other shows are, there is never anybody that is there all the time, that you see all the time. There is no cast! Every time you go on, it is always new people, new circumstances and there is nobody to blend over from an episode before. Whose Wedding Is It Anyway is the only show that has an actual cast of planners, and that's good because that makes it feel a little more like a scripted TV show in that you get to know the cast and those are the people that you follow. I think that is one of the main reasons the show has done as well as it has and why we remain at the top of the ratings. People want to know all about the planners; they want to know what we do for fun; they want to know what we do all the time. It is like watching Golden Girls, you fell in love with all those girls because they were there all the time. Had it been a show about middle-aged women and there were different women there all the time it would not have been as wonderful
Q: I am sure there are certain fans who become attached to each one of you.

DB: Of course! It is unbelievable! Several of us have had stalkers! You know, the show filmed in my home for a long time, so it made people feel like they knew me even more because not only did they know me, but also they knew me in my environment. They really felt like they knew me. You hear the old stories about South Fork in Dallas and how they really used to believe that ranch. People used to climb the fence because they thought they really lived there. It's really funny how people don't pay attention to what's real and what's not real on TV.

Q: How much pressure does the camera add when you're planning a wedding?
DB: A lot! The first thing you have to realize is that I have a major goal. That goal is to make sure the wedding comes off, all the vendors do what they're supposed to and the bride and groom have the day that they want. That's number one, but I also have to pay attention to the fact that we need the show to get what they need so the show does well. Then I also have to pay attention to the vendors, especially when vendors have donated or discounted things to help the couple out. It's important to me personally, that the vendors come across looking good. And sometimes little tiny mistakes can be blown out of proportion and they're things that can happen to anybody, any weekend. They can be really blown out of proportion, so I never let those kinds of mistakes show. I just think it's ridiculous if somebody comes in and says, "Ok, well we're going to let you do your wedding in our venue and we're going to give you 15% off for this couple," you certainly don't want to throw them under the bus over a set of chopsticks sitting on the table or something silly. You'd be surprised how little tiny things can really come out looking much worse than they really were. So you have a lot of different irons in the fire to pay attention to and the stress is immense. It's funny because there are other wedding planners that think that they could do what I do everyday, but most of the people I work with say, "there's no way, you just have this way of tying it all together," and it's really hard and very difficult.
Q: You are really busy and you have tons of people who want you to plan their wedding. How you do prioritize who you want to do the weddings for?
DB: That's hard because obviously we have a staff and we can take on more than one wedding in a weekend. If it's a weekend that we think is going to be busy and let's say the bride that comes to us just wants a week of service and some décor. They tell them that, "Donnie will over-see the planning and he'll make sure everything is right, but there's a chance that he may not be at your wedding." Then if something else comes in that I need to be apart of in order to book that business, I'll be at that wedding and an assistant will be at the smaller wedding. It doesn't happen every week like that. They're really careful to protect me so that I have the option of doing something that I need to do. Also, I've got my book coming out this fall, so all these weddings that we're booking for the fall and the early winter are at times when I'm going to be on the road doing my book tour. We're going to have to be very careful, but we're fielding something between 150-200 weddings a week. Then we also try to refer weddings that we simply cannot accommodate because, you have to realize, some of these weddings have about 350 people and a $10,000 budget. That's not the kind of budget you can hire a wedding planner with, but we have a sister company, The Décor Company, and we often just transition over and do flowers for them. We feel like everyone deserves to have a nice wedding and we'll work with any budget. But whether or not I can personally be there depends on the date and what we have going on.
Q: Back to what you were saying about the show on style how do they choose these couples and decide which planner to pair them off with?

DB: There's two different ways that it works. Traditionally, for many years most of the couples came from the planner. So you hire the planner and the planner submits the couples he wants. Then, of course if somebody goes onto our website and they fill out a form on the website to contact us, it says: are you interested in being on the show? So we have a list of all the brides so that when they tell us they're filming, we pull up the brides we have booked in that time frame that want to be on. Now that's one way, the other way is a different avenue, the couples can contact the network and the network then picks a few and pairs them with the planner. That all depends on personalities, but what they look for in the couples are dynamic personalities and an interesting story; they don't like the couples looking like other couples we've had, they don't like couples with the same story that we've had or the same type of wedding we've had. They're really good at continuing to progress and make things look fresh and new and keep the audience excited. But let's say for instance, I have a couple I've submitted for the show and the couple gets picked up, the next step is a screen test and there's a series of questions that they're asked on camera. The network sees those and determines whether they're going to look good and talk well on camera.

Q: I know humor is a great way to ease tension and calm nerves. How has that been a helpful in dealing with your career and dealing with some difficult clients?
DB: I learned a long time ago that humor was the best icebreaker in the world and it was the best way to get people out of a bad mood, if you can just find a way to do it. Sometimes the silliest humor is the best because people think, "well that was funny, but it was also stupid," but then they start laughing because it was stupid. So I just learned a long time ago, wedding planning is very, very stressful, it's stressful on everybody; so you want to have ways in your back pocket that you can just wedge into the ice and just kill it as quickly as possible so the cooler heads prevail and they can move on. Even when I meet with clients, I tell them we're going to take as much of the stress off you as possible, but there's time when no one, even a good wedding planner or anybody else can, especially the last day of the wedding. And you can joke all day long, but it's not going to help. It just happens to everybody, especially those girls who have been planning their wedding in their heads all those years. I've always used humor in that way, I have to intervene when I can. There's nothing better to crack a joke to somebody who's on the edge of a breakdown and getting them to forget about what they were on the edge about.
Q: Has there ever been a time when something you've either said or done, where the couple wasn't happy with the wedding?

DB: There's always a time when somebody doesn't interpret the wedding the way they see it, but we've learned to get beyond that. We do prototypes and carefully detail everything out to make sure the couple knows exactly what they're getting in advance. When it comes to a centerpiece, it's never a tall cylinder of pink flowers; it's never like that. It's almost like a restaurant menu, it's very detailed and organized and shows how wide things are, what shape they are, what flowers are being used and all that stuff is all there. The important parts, like the bride's bouquet and the centerpieces on the tables are usually done in advance so they can be tweaked and perfected. We really don't run into that very often anymore, but there have been times in years passed; but we haven't had anything like that in a long time.

 

Q: What are tips for planning the perfect wedding? Will a lot of that be covered in your book?
DB: It's all being covered in the book, and there's side bars in the book that give items you need in your emergency kit, questions to ask each vendor and not just the questions, but what to expect from the answers. There are all kinds of great tips in there. But I would say that the top tips would be, first of all, if you can afford it, hire a wedding planner. You just can't believe how much they can take off of you. Secondly, you don't want to be one of those brides that snaps her fingers at people trying to control her wedding reception, it just doesn't look good, because anytime the bride and groom are visible, they're on a stage so everybody is watching you. Another thing is, everyone has a budget, and I fully understand that, but you have to be very careful with the vendors you hire. There's a format in which to do this and you don't want to spend 40% on decor and then 2% on entertainment. Another thing is to prioritize your wants and dislikes, 'cause every couple is different; some want to spend more on decor, some the food, and some of them, the entertainment. So it's important to weigh your likes and dislikes and build your budget accordingly. I had a bride who had a $4,000 budget on a gown; now that's a decent budget to get a very nice gown. I know there are dresses that can be a lot more, but you can still get a very nice gown with $4,000. When she came back from the bridal shop, she came back with a dress that was $12,000, plus alterations, it came up to be around $15,000! I mean that's almost a 400% increase, then they were all upset that they're budget went over. And I was like 'duh, what did you think was going to happen when you marked up your gown 400% over budget.' It has to come out of somewhere, do you want to skip out on the alcohol in the reception and make people leave after an hour? Do not make people sit there sober. They will leave after dinner.
Q: So to tie things up, what's the best way for fans to keep up with what's going on with you?
DB: Well I have my fan site; actually you can get to everything through http://www.donniebrown.net/ . That is a portal site that has my merchandise section. It also has my press kit and my press materials in there so you can see articles and things that we've done. It leads off into my wedding planning company and you can go off into my floral company and decor company and then it's got my fan site. There's an "Ask Donnie" section in the fan site and that's fun. People ask questions and I pick a few here and there and answer. It's kind of like a mini blog. Then, actually for the last 3 weeks I've been on Twitter! I actually have fun with it and you can look me up as wdonniebrown





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