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Q: I was wondering
what brought your attention to this particular role.
A: Well, they just sent me the script and I really liked
it. Kyra Sedgwick had been a friend of mine for a while. I
did a TV movie with her called Losing Chase several
years ago that her husband Kevin Bacon actually directed.
And I like the show, "The Closer." And I thought
the character was a real unique pair of high heels to fill
for me.
Q: What was it like
walking a mile in a woman's shoes?
A: Let me tell you something, it was brutal. I'm never again
going to complain to my wife to hurry up, you know, when we're
late trying to get somewhere and she's got her heels on. That's
not going to happen.
Q: Why do you think people
continue to tune in and watch "The Closer?"
A: Well, I think the stories are good. It always starts with
the play, you know, Shakespeare said that a long time ago,
the play is the thing. And I think they've got a good team
of writers and a wonderful group of actors. And I think that's
probably why.
Q: So I was wondering what
about this role appealed to you?
A: Well you know, probably in the beginning, the uniqueness
of it. The fact that it was a person who had gone down this
path of having a sex change. You know I really - I have a
great respect for people who have the courage to go down that
path. It's not an easy road. I had done a play written by
Jane Anderson several years ago called "Looking For Normal,"
and in that one I played a guy who was contemplating a sex
change and had ended up with him being wheeled into the operating
room to have the operation. So during that experience I had
meet a lot of people who had had a sex change operation and
began to understand a bit about how challenging that is. So
this gave me another opportunity to examine that, you know,
that course of action and to represent it to people who maybe
don't know too much about it and to honor those folks who
have gone down that path.
Q: And is this just going
to be a one-time thing? Or is there any chance that this is
going to turn into a reoccurring role?
A: Well, it felt like - I mean at the time it was suggested
to me as a one-time thing, but they didn't kill me off, so
you never know.
Q: There's quite a bit
leap from Dick Buick to your current character in "The
Closer." What do you think Mad Dog would have to say
about this character?
A: Well, I think you know maybe there's some parallels there
too because Mad Dog was a - he was a real brave guy. He lived
on the edge. He wasn't afraid to try something that, you know,
was a bit edgy for the rest of society. And I think that could
be said for George/Georgette, my character here. So they would
have that in common. And they're both kind of fearless.
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Q: In "The Closer,"
they kind of the tow the line back and forth between humor
and drama. Now, do you approach this role, you know, after
what you were saying about how you came to a greater understanding
about people that have had a sex change, do you approach it,
the role, with any type of humor at all? Or do you play it
more just straight?
A: Well, I really always enjoy humor in any role that I take
on because as an audience member, I love to laugh. So if there's
a good laugh there I usually go for it. But I didn't want
it to be at the expense of someone who was a person who had
gone through a sex change because I know how profound that
is. So any of the humor, I think, in this show, hopefully
will come out of the relationships of the people, because
my character at one time was a best buddy of G.W. Bailey's
character, Detective Provenza. And so a lot of the humor comes
out of Provenza's attempt to get used to his old buddy as
a woman. And I think there is some humor in that. It's tough
but there's some humor in it. And I think they did a good
job in the screenplay of honoring someone who would go through
this situation but at the same time having a place for humor
in it, which is always a good thing, I think.
Q: Besides having to put
on those high heels that were so uncomfortable, I know you're
an actor, so it's easy just to go into roles, but in a role
like this, does it give you kind of an innate sense what people
must be going through who feel compelled or opt to, or whatever
the terminology would be, to go through this process?
A: Well, when I was preparing for this - I think I mentioned
I was in this play called "Looking for Normal" written
by Jane Anderson - and this involved a person who was contemplating
a sex change and then at the end of the play is wheeled into
the operating room. And so in preparation for that play I
spent time with folks who had gone down that path. And I found
that like most people when you – you can't really fit them
into a niche. I mean, they really run a whole spectrum there
of different types of people who have gone down that road
on the opposite ends of the spectrum.
I met one woman who had had the operation, began her life
as a man, and she was very feminine, quite beautiful, really
done up, heavily made up, coiffed and all of that - beautiful
clothes, very, you know, every bit of her feminine and very
comfortable in her skin. And then I also met a woman who as
a man had been a fire chief. And she had no makeup, long beautiful
hair, but very kind of natural looking. Her handshake was
very firm, but she also very comfortable in her skin. And
after she had her operation, all she did was just move stations
and she's still the fire chief. So I was kind of - it kind
of left me off the hook because I realized that the realm
of experience is pretty wide with folks who have gone down
that journey. They come from - they're all types of people
that do that. And each one is an individual. So it left me
some room to interpret it the way I would. And I also believe
that most men have female kind of attributes inside us and
probably most females have a masculine side in there somewhere.
Q: Right. Yes.
A: And you know, I love women's clothes. For instance, I
pick out all of my wife's clothes. So it was fun getting into
the costuming of this woman.
Q: Well, maybe this will
give you new insight when you go shopping for her.
A: There you go.
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