Vince DiFiore, Cake's longtime trumpet, keyboards,
and percussionist took some time out of his busy day to talk about
the music, the new CD and life as a member of one of the most
versitile bands around...
(Album Info)
Music Guy: You releasing a B-sides and Rarities
album... That's a lot cooler than a greatest hits CD, this is
for your fans!
Vince DiFiore : Yeah, that's right. If you are interested in greatest
hits, you probably know the music already and have the albums
already. Greatest Hits are sort of a way for the record companies
to make a little bit of money...
MG: Exactly. It's marketing.
Vince: Where are you?
MG: We're in Delaware, best described as the southern-most
suburb of Philadelphia.
Vince: I love being there. I go south Philly all the time. I go
to Bella Vista, go to the cheese shop, the spice shops, pheasants'
hanging from the butcher shop windows... it's an interesting area.
MG: You guys are doing this truly independent of the record
companies, you're getting no help from a major label.
Vince: When the industry changed, album sales weren't so great.
We decided why be trapped into a label deal when we can just own
what we're doing. I'm not sure if owning what we are doing is
going to be more profitable, because there is a lot of free promotion
you can get from being on a major label.
MG: On the other hand, especially online, you can reach the whole
world.
Vince: That's right. I think we're all just beginning to understand
just what the internet means and what it can do. It seems like
you can reach the world, but people only have a certain amount
of time in the day... the thing is to get something to go viral.
MG: The viral and the Buzz...
Vince: You get that going and then your cool, you get on the right
sites. It was not so long ago, nobody knew that myspace would
become as big as they are. This is all new, and it continues to
be a new development. We're doing the best we can to keep an eye
on opportunities, and doing the best we can.
MG: Let's get into some Cake history, first off, how did you
choose the name?
Vince: At the time, we were in Sacramento, playing in small clubs,
and we got word out by putting up flyers. It was in the vogue
to go around with a staple gun in the middle of the night on your
bicycle and tack flyers up on telephone poles. We did a lot of
that and we needed something that would grab attention. A name
not too long, the letters had to be big enough that you could
possibly see in a car driving by. We picked a four letter word
that had some phonetic oomph to it, a little punch, something
that was the sign of the times (the early 1990s). Cake is meant
to be a verb.
MG: This CD release is going to be scratch and sniff?
Vince: It's impossible at this point in time to download the olfactory
sense. Your nose just cannot pick up anything digitally. We are,
probably in vain, trying to beat the system a little bit and make
something of a little extra value, replacing the missing album
art. We've tried to have interesting album art, but we wanted
to offer something really tangible, satisfying to have the CD
in your hand.
MG: Dating myself, I remember the days when you'd get the Who
album with the brown vinyl, or Split Enz had a lazer etching across
the record on their first album. It added some excitement. It
was so cool.
Vince: When I was a sophomore in high school, Led Zeppelin's In
Through The Out Door came out. It had different covers and it
had a water color on the inner lining you could paint yourself!
MG: I remember that. Mine was a water color ashtray! It was
something fun, and it's good to see you guys attempt to bring
some of that back! Especially for the fans.. this is fan orientated.
Vince: we have some great listeners, we want them to know that
we're still thinking and still want to entertain them.
MG: The band does original stuff, and you are gutsy enough
to take on some some other people's signature songs, other people's
"standards." I Will Survive, originally by Gloria Gaynor
comes to mind. You guys too it and kind of made it your own.
Vince: It was such a strong song, and if you're going to cover
a song, it's should be a surprise. Good music usually has an element
of surprise, so if you add an unexpected genre choice, especially
a disco song, I think it makes a little more fun for the listener.
That's something we went for on this album. You wouldn't expect
us to be covering Barry White, Black Sabbath. We're supposed to
be an alternative rock band!
MG: I'm looking forward to hearing Strangers In The Night!
Vince: The Frank Sinatra thing. That was originally on the Stubbs
The Zombie PS2 soundtrack. Never, Never Gonna Give You Up was
on the soundtrack for An American Werewolf In Paris. Mahna Mahna
was on the album, For The Kids. So theses were songs that we recorded
and gave to different projects here and there, and we brought
them all together. They fit very nicely on the album. We were
actually pretty surprised at how cohesive this collection is.
It is a solid body of work.
MG: How did you and John (McCrea) meet up?
Vince: We have pretty fun local music scene here. You can live
her affordably, I was going to school and doing music, had odd
jobs, John had fronted several different bands and wanted to start
something new. He had just come back from Los Angeles, kind of
disillusioned with the rock scene there, and we met up here in
Sacramento, with the idea of paring down the music, really communicating
with the audience like in a coffee shop.
I was in a jazz group, kind of an open jam session, he came by,
invited me to a rehearsal, I did, we did a show, that was the
fall of '91.
MG: So you stared out in the earliest days of Cake?
Vince: We were doing songs John had done previously, but I was
in the band before it was called Cake.
MG: John has an unusual voice. No your usual rock start singer.
Vince: I guess his voice is more like a country voice, on line
of someone like Johnny Cash. We are very respectful of his vocals.
We are very conscious that he is delivering his words to an audience.
MG: He speaks distinctly, he enunciates every word... He's
the opposite of REM's Michael Stipe.
Vince: I remember when REM started out, that was an exciting thing
about their music, he was speaking in some alien language, in
an indulgent way you could hear what you wanted to hear. Everything's
been said already, just hear what you want to hear.
MG: That was part of their artistry.
Vince: When they came out with Murmer, I saw them in a small theater
in Santa Barbara. I saw them a few years later when Reckoning
came out. Big Country opened for them.
MG: What's your home situation? Married? Kids? Family?
Vince: I have three children, 6, 4 and 1. All boys.
MG: You kids are too young now, but at some point, there you
are, rock and roll guy, and your kids are just gonna roll their
eyes when you talk about work.
Vince: I'm trying to train them to be musicians . They keep asking
when they can be in a rock band. I'm not really going to push
it in them. They have an interest in music though. My oldest is
playing piano. I'm trying to talk them into being doctors.
MG: What's next?
Vince: We're going to Europe in July, we have a few gigs here
at home in May and June. We're looking forward to getting back
in the studio. I think tour will give us more time together to
gather more album-worthy material.
MG: We're always working on music and band lists... I'm thinking
of adding Cake to the Nerd Bands list. I think you should be on
that list. Are you guys nerds?
Vince: (laughing) no, no! But at first, we were grouped in with
band like The Eels, Weezer. I never feel that way about the music.
I think we're pretty cool, we don't have the darkness. We don't
have that gloomy aspect. Maybe we try too hard to be toughtful...w
what makes you a nerd?
MG: We'll its the look, and nerds have a confidence now, and
we can thank Weird Al Yankovic for that. I appreciate you taking
the time to talk to me today. have fun in Europe!
Vince: We will. Thanks for calling!
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