Melissa:
Hi. How are you doing, this evening?
Llexi Leon: Not too bad. Not too bad. Been busy as usual. And what's
it like at your end?
M: It's the middle of the afternoon and it's pouring. (laughing)
LL: Where are you, anyway?
M: We're located in Wilmington, Delaware. You probably haven't
heard of it. We're by Philadelphia.
LL: No, I know Delaware. I don't know where you are in Delaware,
but I know it.
M: Okay, cool. Well, some people in America think that Delaware
is a town in Pennsylvania, and not actually a state, so you have
one up on them. (laughing) First off, were you a musician
first, or did drawing get you into music?
LL: Oh, no. Well, I was a musician first, but I was reading comics
and anime when I was you know, eight and ten years old, but I wasn't
drawing or writing them or anything like that. I just enjoyed it
when I was much younger.
M: What sort of comics did you read?
LL: Originally American comics, actually. All the staple stuff
that's still going strong now. Things like the Silver Surfer and
The X-men that are all big again now a days.
M: Are you still an avid reader of comics?
LL: Well, no, I kind of grew out of it when I was thirteen or fourteen.
More recently I was sort of inspired to get back into it, and I
must say that I'm quite impressed by how the writing has come on
in comic books. They've got some pretty serious writing talents
these days. They're not writing books for just kids anymore.
M: How did you get into music?
LL: Well, that's a good question. I'm not sure…I sort of picked
up the electric guitar, as most kids do, when I was about thirteen
or so, having just got out of comics and things like that. I probably
got into heavy metal as most sort of angsty teenagers do. I guess
I picked up the electric guitar, and I just wanted to follow Metallica
and I learned all their stuff. I think from then, professionally
speaking, I had a guitar tutor that once I reached a certain stage
he started passing on jobs he didn't want to do to me. I started
doing session work and recording work for other people. I learned
a lot about recording that way and eventually kind of got quite
tired of recording stuff for other people. Pop it's all quite samey
and I wanted to do something more experimental, and that's how I
started on what I've been doing.
M: Do you play any other instruments?
LL: Yeah, I mean on the record you'll hear everything from violin,
piano, and guitar and that's all me. I play everything on it, but
my main instruments are guitar, piano, and violin in that sort of
order. I dabble in base and drums and all that, but that's why on
the first CD it's mainly quite repetitive on the drums and base
parts because I was kind of dabbling in that at the time. On this
CD, the listener can look forward to a rather improved technique
and more progressive rhythm style with the new stuff.
M: Is drawing something you've always been interested in as
well?
LL: Yeah, I mean, I'm actually… It's depreciating, but I think
I'm a rubbish artist, really. I like to get my ideas down on paper.
I have a very clear vision of characters and locations and the way
things should look and I try and get that down as best I can, and
then I collaborate with more serious professionals and artists to
bring that to life to the standards that I'm happy with and that
I would be happy to share with other people.
M: What gave you the idea behind the concept of Eternal Descent
to combine music and comics?
LL: There is kind of a purposeful moment when I was doing some
stuff for commercials. I don't even know what it was anymore, but
there were explosions and I think it was a car thing. I was doing
the strings, and the orchestration if you will, to these explosive
kind of sound effects, and we had these big explosions going on,
you know surround sound, and I was just adding all of these strings
to it, and it just sounded really epic. There was a story in there,
and in a sort of way it was conjuring up imagery in my head just
from hearing it play back on the monitors. I was like this is a
pretty cool vibe that you get such a visual response in your head
just from the audio. You know there's no one saying anything, there's
no kind of direct "This is what's happening," but I had
a picture and I thought that I should do something with that and
play around with that more.
M: I noticed that the music itself is not just a soundtrack,
but that it helps to tell the story. Where did your ideas for the
story come from?
LL: I 'm not sure. (laughing) It's probably a combination
of all the things I've assimilated over the years. The story has
a lot of kind of trademark elements of comic books that I enjoyed,
and the films that I've enjoyed, but at the same time it doesn't…
you know there's no plagiarism that's going on, but there's a kind
of influence. Things like the movie The Crow is an influence. Like
the comic character Spawn, he's an influence. Even the Silver Surfer
is an influence. There are aspects, elements of him, in my main
character even though they're totally different. I think it's definitely
much like the music. It's an amalgamation of kind of all sorts of
stuff and all different types of mediums.
M: I read that both your hero's Serian and the villain Loki
are based on yourself. What characteristics do you feel that you
share with them?
LL: Well, it's kind of like, if you ever see yourself as a hero,
you're like "Oh, it would be cool to have this power or whatever."
I think that the good guy, Serian, is kind of how I would be. He
has the same personality as me as well. He's quite straightforward,
a kind of carbon copy of me, but taken to new levels of a superhero
with these fantastic abilities. And then you've got Lokki, who's
the bad guy, and that plays on more of a twisted sense of humor
which he shares with me.
M: Where did you find your vocalist Elysha West?
LL: Elysha is married to the first guy who taught me to play guitar,
and I met her that way. I've known her for really a decade now,
and she's a fantastic vocalist. I mean you can just play anything
at her. I often start with the vocal parts, because I write them
all, and I'll just play the solo on guitar and I'm like "It
goes like this" and she'll just sing it right back. A couple
of takes and it's done, and it's just fantastic. I have known her
for nearly a decade now, and she is quite a fantastic vocalist.
M: Because you've known her would you say that's helped your
working relationship?
LL: Oh yeah! It really makes everything out there much better communication
then you would if you just got a session vocalist in or you were
trying to start from scratch with someone. The guy I record with
when we're actually doing the sessions I've known him for about
eight years as well, and so it's a really quite tight unit. We can
get a lot done quite quickly.
M: How is it been working with the anime artist? Do you fell
like they properly capture your vision?
LL: Mostly. You won't have seen the stuff, because we haven't
released it. I'm working with a guy at the moment called, Jason
Metcalf. He's been on the outskirts of the comic business for a
while now. He's been doing comic stuff for about ten years, and
he's definitely bringing things to life the way they should look.
There's going to be some stuff coming out. We're working on a single
for May-ish and that's going to be a cover of the Phantom of the
Opera with a few other bits and pieces where it will almost be like
a parody. We'll have the characters taking on the roles as if they
were in the phantom and the art work for that is just fantastic.
He's just got it spot on. It's also the same guy who's doing the
comic book we're working on, which will be way in the distance when
that gets put to press, because that's a long process. He's doing
amazing work and we get to communicate a lot. We talk on the phone
or by email and send stuff back and forth, and it's just a very
easy process. He really understands where I'm coming from, and it
all looks great.
M: Do you feel that the album has a target market?
LL: I don't think the CD has a specific target market. As you've
probably heard it's quite unusual. It was a lot more of an experiment
than anything else. I think it's a cool CD, but if I was going for
like "I want to do a metal-core kind of album" or "I
want to do a jazz album" or whatever I could have just done
it and aimed it at whoever. But this is something that I really
wanted to do for myself, and I think some people will get this.
People who are into fantasy stuff and comics and animie as well
more progressive music. There's a whole spectrum of people who have
found us on the web as well as bought the album and said "Oh,
I really like this." And when you actually go and check out
these people, because I can be quite hands on with that, especially
when people come by through MySpace, and I check them out, and you've
got people listening to such a diverse array of styles or people
into anime or people into comics it's a big range.
M: How do you plan on going about doing a live stage performance?
LL: It is something in the pipeline, but there's a lot going on
really. It's something I would like to do, but it's not exactly
easy because there are so many instruments on the CD and then they
were all performed by myself. So if I was going to do it live I
would have to hire some people and collaborate with them to bring
that to life. But certainly, to the point of view of what would
make it different from a regular band, we'd get some massive projectors
rigged up and have all of the artwork hacked about. I'm planning
to eventually do that and then synchronize imagery to the music,
and you know when there's an explosion you'll see the explosion.
M: I read that you plan to release a game from the story? Is
that true?
LL: Yeah, that's right! We're working on that right now. We are
just doing the pitch at the moment. We have had a couple of developers
interested, but I am waiting to finalize. The biggest thing I'm
working on at the moment is the comic, and I want to kind of finalize
publishing for that, and that's going to help us with the negotiations
for the game. So that's underway and I've had loads of concept artwork
done for that and we're writing the actual gameplay and what's going
to happen in the story and hopefully the story will kind of generally
reflect that first album. Really a lot of things are coming out
now. We're doing this 12 issue arc of comics and we're doing this
game and all of this other stuff. It's all going to be coming back
to this first album. It's a quite ambiguous and experimental album,
and we'll be actually showing people all of the depth in there and
all of the kind of hidden meanings in the lyrics and in the sound
effects and so on.
M: I have also looked on your official website and your MySpace
page. Do you maintain those pages yourself?
LL: Yeah, I do, embarrassingly enough. They look like they haven't
really been dealt with properly in a week or so, and the official
page is about a month out of date, by now. But yeah it's a lot to
deal with. I have a couple of web guys I work with when it comes
to more serious coding, like that, but on the whole I maintain and
I try to communicate with fans regularly and that sort of thing,.
With MySpace there's like twenty-two thousand people on there, so
going on all of the time is quite hard.
M: What music are you currently listening to now?
LL: Quite a variety of stuff. I mean really I stick to classic
stuff, mostly because it just helps me relax. Often I don't listen
to contemporary music, because I find if I listen to what other
people are doing then it's too easy to be subconsciously taking
that when I sit down and pick up the guitar. There are lots of cool
bands out there, doing awesome stuff, but I'm trying to stay away
from that and listen to classical stuff and listen to a lot of film
soundtracks at the same time. A big one fro me is the Lord of the
Rings soundtrack. I listen to that quite a bit. (laughing)
I still play a lot of metal guitar, but it's more just kind of improv
based upon eighties stuff that I enjoyed, and I put it together
myself rather than listening to current bands.
M: Have you ever considered a career in something other than
music?
LL: Surely. I quite like the idea of getting all this Eternal Decent
stuff out there, because I kind of artistically direct everything,
if you will. I'm in charge of the comic, and I write the comic,
and I do all of the production on the music, and I'm kind of heading
the artistic direction on the game. Once that's all done, I quite
like for people to think "You, know that was a pretty cool
brand this Eternal Decent label. Maybe we could get this guy in
to do something with whatever kids TV properties they had in mind."
I'd like to do that kind of work.
M: Is there anything else from Eternal Descent that we should
expect in the future that we haven't already talked about?
LL: There is all sorts of stuff. I mean we've covered the comic,
and the game, and the Phantom of the Opera single, and that's kind
of the major stuff. There is a second album in the pipeline as well.
That's going to be like one big long epic, and more than the conventional
album. That's going to be quite interesting. We're going to have
one track that's about forty minutes long kind of like a symphony,
and it's going to have movement. It's going to be accompanied by
comics and there will be character voiceovers as well as just lyrics.
The actual characters have voices now. I do some of the voices and
have a couple of other people doing voice acting, and so there's
actually going to be a sort of dramatization going on and the words
you hear, the script, will be acted out in the music and will be
reflected in the speech bubbles in the comic. It'll be pretty cool.
M: Yeah! That sounds pretty interesting. Do you have any ideas
for different projects in the future that don't involve Eternal
Descent?
LL: Not at the moment, no (laughing). I think if I could
make it work, I have a good few years ahead of me putting it all
together, and then I might think about something else.
M: Can you tell us one interesting fact about yourself that
our readers might not already know?
LL: Good question. I don't know. (laughing) what kinds of
things do you want to know?
M: Just something cool, something funny about yourself. Something
a little personal.
LL: I'm quite dull really. I spend most of my time working on music.
I suppose one interesting fact might be that I was on the athletics
team for my county here in England. Despite being a geek, I quite
like running and swimming.
M: Well, that's interesting. Alright then, thank you so much
for talking to me. We wish you the best in the future, and have
a great evening!
LL: Thank you very much as well. Take care.
M: Bye.
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