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(May
27, 2008) PCM's
Kristyn chatted it up with the Filter frontman about their new album
"Anthems for the Damned", in stores now, and learned a
lot about the direction of the band and where Filter is headed in
the future!
Kristyn: Have you guys been traveling long?
Richard: We have been traveling for three or four weeks now. We
are really just starting; we are going to be out for sure until
later this August and then maybe even into September. We are trying
to organize what we would like to do in fall, maybe head to Europe
and possibly Australia. Get out of the States for a bit and then
head back.
K: I heard you have an upcoming tour with "10 Years"?
R: We are going to be out with "10 Years" for all of June.
That is going to be fun; they have a big hit with "Beautiful".
It is great to be around guys that are really having fun and enjoying
success, so it will be really cool.
K: Definitely. So, it has been about six years since we have
heard anything from Filter.
R: Yeah, six years…well, I went into rehab and stopped working on
that record, or rather stopped working that record cycle. I took
a year off and then started writing, had a bunch of songs ready
to go, and then I was just about ready to go do this record "Anthems
for the Damned", when I was introduced to Robert and Dean,
actually re-introduced to Robert and Dean, and we hit off and did
"Army of Anyone" and that was a really long three year
process.
K: They are the Deleo brothers correct?
R: Yeah, Robert and Dean from STP (Stone Temple Pilots) and Ray
Luziera. After that, I started work on the Filter record last May,
so about a year ago I started working on it again and then put it
out!
K: So, what has the feedback on the new album been so far?
R: I think it has been amazing. Most people are really happy and
it looks like it is doing really well. We are excited just to be
back, I think it is a great record, I think it is amazing. The fans
that I have talked to, that are really in tune, which I respect,
really get it and that is cool.
K: I notice a lot of status of our world/ of our country type themes
on the new album.
R: Well, it is just more socially aware.
K: Okay
R: When you are an alcoholic, you are inward and everything is kind
of inward and you are trying to figure out yourself and your own
issues. It is only ten feet in front of you. I just did not want
to be so self-absorbed, I wanted to have a little bit of that, and
I talk about recovery and stuff like that. "Kill The Day"
is a song like that for example " Close your eyes/the curtains/then
you lie/push them away/it's okay/Kill The Day/". It is what
I did for four years, close your eyes is when you inhale, you close
the curtains and then you start getting on the phone and telling
everybody that you can't do anything or you are too busy, there
is such a resolve, there is such a good feeling about destroying
my life. Months would go by, people in my life were like "Dude,
don't you have to work on music or something?" I would be like
"No"; it feels good to kill the day. So, I talk about
that, then at the same time, when you get sober there is so much
of your life that comes back to you. I have had a good look at how
bad President Bush has done, and there are only two songs on the
record that really address that and then there is "Soldiers
of Misfortune" a song about a fan of ours that has gotten killed
in the war.
K: I read about that, it is a very tragic story.
R: Yeah, and then there is what we are doing to the environment,
which I have talked about in other records. "Cancer" is
a song that is all about what we are doing to the environment, so
you know there are a lot bands out there and there is a lot of crap
and I wanted to have something out there that wasn't about my "crib"
or my "gold chains"
K: Yeah, your "bling"
R: (laughs) Or my "bling" or lack there of…
(laughter)
K: So, what eventually led you to the decision to try sobriety?
What pushed you in that direction?
R: Alcoholics are the last ones to know that they have a problem.
Everyone else in the world knows, like "Wow, Rich, you are
a total alcoholic" so finally on September 28th, 2002 I was
supposed to play a show and I was just so spent physically that
I looked the mirror at this hotel in Atlanta and I got startled
because I couldn't see myself, I only saw this creepy, old dude,
I mean I was only 34.
K: That is what it can do.
R: When you are 34, you are already starting to show the signs of
aging, but when you liver and your kidneys start to fail that skin
loses its elasticity and you're bloated. I had literally in the
last two months of my drinking had changed into this very strange
looking man and I didn't understand who it was, it freaked me out,
my nerves were completely destroyed for the booze and I was think
the " What do I do?" "How do I get out of this"?
I felt I really deserve to go to a facility that will cater to my
problems and they did. I went to this place called "Promises",
I sat down and they just went one by one. A lot of people who were
in there were like "F**k, this place!" but I took a good
look around and I went "Enjoy this, look around, and learn
everything you can because this is the first and last time you are
ever going to be here". I made that promise to myself to never
go back as a patient.
K: That is great to hear, very commendable. Glad to hear that it
has worked out for you. Let's talk about the new album "Anthems
for the Damned" a little bit; what was the thought process
behind some of the writing on the new CD, I know you touched on
a few points earlier, I see there were a few collaborations.
R: The actual music writing, most of it was myself, but on some
of the songs I wanted to go where Ministry and those guys kind of
went, almost as a homage to them, so I got guys like John 5 and
Wes Borland ,Josh Freese plays drums. The thinking behind "Anthems"
was doing as much as you want on your own, but when Bruce Springsteen
needs a saxophone player, he doesn't play it, he goes off and gets
and saxophone player and they rock. I had to start looking at myself,
kind of like Justin Timberlake, not in sound, but in the fact that
Justin will if he can't do it, he will get some great to come in
and help him do it, and that is way I want to collaborate. I am
going to use my new band, I mean I have these new guys who are on
the road with me fleshing it out live and they are talented, so
I am going to incorporate everything that they've got. It is an
exciting place to be when you are the leader of a band, so I utilize
that. Josh Abraham has a ton of friends and I just got them all
to hang out with me and do it.
K:
That is good. This is an indie release, correct?
R: Yes
K: What made you decide to go the indie route?
R: I spent a certain amount of money making this record and because
I own this label with Josh Abraham I've recouped everything I've
spent. On "Shortbus" it took me a year to re-coup. My
record has been out for less than two weeks and I have already re-couped.
K: Wow
R: That is why you do it on your own. I do not have to answer to
anyone, I made a video that has guns, oil, and says exactly what
it should say about the war in Iraq, no one else did it, and no
one else is going to do it. Hip-hop is not doing it so, I had to
do it and the funny thing is I thought I was going to be banned
from certain channels, but they are all like "Oh, no, this
is great!" which is funny. I did not want to answer to anyone
on this record; I wanted to say what I wanted to say. My idols Johnny
Light and Joe Strummer, the combat rock, you know "Rock the
Kasbah" video where there is this Jewish guy and this Arab
guy and they are in an oil field, there is this underlying kind
of symbolism, I love that stuff and that is where I wanted to go
with the video for "Soldiers of Misfortune". I wanted
that in your face kind of political statement, I just don't know
if I would have been able to convince my label, who's so terrified
of making a statement and I didn't want to deal with that. When
you are working with people like Josh Abraham, Mark Pollock, and
these guys are your label and they are like "go for it"
you utilize that strength, so that is what we did. Evan Lane is
a really great video director; by the way, I am really proud of
the video.
K: Oh, I agree. The video looks fantastic; I watched it the other
day.
R: Cool.
K: These days you find that more and more bands are going the
indie route in order to avoid the censorship that goes along with
the large label, and it seem to be working out. They will often
utilize MySpace as a promotion tool. How do you feel about MySpace
as a way to get the word out there promotion wise?
R: Well, MySpace is like a huge phonebook, so every band has got
the same site and they all do the same kind of thing, so still someone
has to be out there promoting your band. You have to have funds
and you have to have creative people behind you when you are thinking
of ways to get into people's faces. It definitely helps if you have
a big hit; I mean if Amy Winehouse didn't have that song "Rehab",
then I don't think she would have been half as big as she is today.
Reality is you have to have hits to make it work.
K: Do you feel that your sound has matured over the years? How
do you feel that it differs from your previous releases?
R: "Title" was a pretty amazing record; Amalgamut was
a pretty amazing record, even though the lyrics were pretty weird.
I went back and I re-read them because I was getting ready to go
on tour and I wanted to make sure I had all this stuff, the lyrics
were just real stream of conscious. It was kind of interesting and
I was like, "Where do we go from here?" Literally my fight
with my own writer's block, my own stifled world that I had created
that I couldn't get beyond, I was just name dropping songs that
I had written, like in the sense that I am not the only one/ I am
your guilty son/the shiny gun…that's "Hey Man, Nice Shot' the
guilty son is from "Take a Picture", so I was kind of
citing these other songs and saying where do we go from here. I
had reached a certain plateau within my own creativity and because
of my drug dependency I really had a hard time being clever enough
to kind of think of things. The main thing is to keep always forging
ahead, I am really proud of this record, and a lot of people love
it.
K: Everything things I have seen about it so far has been positive
and the single has definitely been getting some radio play. I heard
"Soldiers of Misfortune" on rotation on the radio on my
way down to the Delaware beach the other day, so it is definitely
getting so love out there.
R: Very cool
K: You have played in Kuwait for Operation MySpace, and I read
that Frank Cavanaugh, former member of Filter is serving in Iraq.
R: Frank Cavanaugh used to play bass in Filter from 1995 till around
2002. After I went and joined Army of Anyone, he joined the Army.
He joined the Army in 2005, so when we got this gig to play with
MySpace, we are really grateful they asked us with Disturbed and
all those guys, we thought maybe Frank should come out. They sent
Frank out there and he played bass, it was cool, and it has led
to us going to the Pentagon, we're going to go take a tour of the
Pentagon, we are going to take tour of Walter Reed, so we are pro-troops,
anti-war band and we say some critical things of the President and
his stuff, but we're not against the warrior, we're against the
war. We don't even really want to bring up the war while we are
there, we just want to touch the soldiers and let them know that
we're here for them and it means a lot to us what they have done
because no one can blame the soldiers for this.
K: Did you ever fear for safety at any time while you were overseas?
R: No, they have so many soldiers who are just amazing.
K: I spoke with Drowning Pool last week, who have also played
in Iraq and those areas, and they said the same thing, they said
other than the heat, there was nothing to be afraid of.
R: Yeah, we didn't play Iraq, we played Kuwait in the middle of
this huge desert, let me pull up some photos, and we are all the
way out there in this gigantic desert. You have to see some of the
pictures.
K: So you played the same bill as Jessica Simpson? Seems like
opposite sides of the spectrum (laughs)
R: You know when it comes down to it, we are all just people and
she was very sweet. I knew she was going to be very nice. Jessica
Simpson was very cool; I was really stoked by that.
K: Were they happy to have a show over there, I know that it
must bring a little piece of home to them.
R: They have all sorts of pieces of home over there, but they are
still in the middle desert, and let me show you.
(Richard shows me several pictures such as the stage, a black hawk
helicopter, Frank and his bass, a Starbucks in Kuwait and several
others; I can tell it must have been an amazing experience. The
aerial shots of Kuwait were amazing…thanks to Richard to sharing
his photos/memories!)
K: So, what is next on the horizon for you?
R: Touring! We are going to tour and just do everything we can to
promote the band and get us back to where we should be. It has been
a long time since Filter has been around, I just have to re-educate
everybody as to what we were doing.
K:
Where do you see the future of music heading and where do you see
yourself in that picture?
R: I am going to put out another record, for sure. I just want to
continue doing it for as long as I can, I mean I feel like I have
been given a really great gift, my voice is really strong these
days and really like doing what I do, so I am just going to keep
it up.
K: Well, congratulations on the album and I am glad to hear everything
is going so well.
R: Thank you!
K: My final question is a fun one…Can you tell our site readers
on interesting fact about you or Filter that we may not already
know?
R: Everyone knows I am a Star Wars fan, but maybe your fans might
not know this but my nickname from 1989 to 1993 in Nine Inch Nails
was Piggy. Did you know that?
K: (laughs) I did not know that!
R: So, think of that when you hear the "Downward Spiral"
next time.
K: (laughs) I definitely will!
R: My nickname in Nine Inch Nails was Piggy, everyone just called
me Piggy because I used to do this imitation of Ogre from Skinny
Puppy, cause he was singing (growling voice) "White Piggy/Rahhh!"
and he was doing this whole thing and I was like, (growling voice)
"Piggyyyy!" imitating him, so Trent was like, "Shut-up
Piggy", Piggy that is your new name", so from then on
it was just Piggy.
K: Definitely an interesting story. Thanks so much for taking the
time to chat with us tonight. The new album rocks and we wish you
much success in the future.
R: Thank you.
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