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had the opportunity to participate in a conference call with
the outrageously funny Sarah Silverman in support of the upcoming
season of "The Sarah Silverman" program airing Wed.
nights on Comedy Central at 10:30pm! Check it out below:
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| Q:
What kind of subjects are you going to be touching on this season.
Like, what kind of taboo and controversial subjects? You tend
to do that a lot in your show. |
| Sarah
Silverman: We do, although I don’t think we ever really
go, “What can we tackle this season?” I think that would kind
of be a slutty way to go about it. We just continue to still
try to just write stuff that makes us laugh, and when a bunch
of comics are in a room, it takes more to make us laugh; or
less. I mean, aggressively stupid goes a long way in the room
and on the show.
Let’s see, I find out I was born with both looks and personality?
No, it’s weird to not have anything coming back. I’m imagining
you all laughing on mute. What else? My imaginary friend from
childhood comes back as an adult and we have a lesby affair.
Steve and Brian have a great … this season; their love as
well as Jay and Laura; there’s some wedding action, and it’s
very funny; there’s a new mayor in town who makes gay sex
and brunch illegal. I should just look through the—let’s see,
I go on “Real Time with Bill Maher.”
Let’s see, Andy Samberg plays my imaginary friend this year.
Ed Asner is in an episode as a Nazi war criminal. It was really,
really—let me tell you something about older actors. Ed Asner
is about 80, and Murray, who is on our show, Gershams, is
87, and they’re such pros that when they’re not shooting,
they are in their chair sleeping. Just like containing their
energy. And we have some really great pictures of elderly
Nazi war criminals in set chairs sound asleep.
Billy Crudup plays himself on the show in an episode. I know
you didn’t ask who guest stars were. Let me think. There’s
some heavy psychedelic drug-taking in an episode. There’s
a lot of drugs this season, actually.
Let me think; let me think a … second. I’m just reacting
to nobody. Let me think—oh God, I need to drink this coffee
that’s in front of me. C’mon Sarah, you’re embarrassing yourself.
I try to fight the taboo of child molesters and vans. Oh,
my God, my brain, my brain. This is going to look so cool
on a transcript; lots of dot, dot, dots, and little breakdowns.
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| Q:
Well, it sounds like you have a good season coming up |
| Sarah
Silverman: It does, right? I know I’m forgetting like eight
episodes. There’s one episode; our eighth episode actually is
a Steve and Brian story line that, you’ll actually, dare I say,
cry at the end.
It was written as a drama. Rob Schrab, actually, who directs
most of the episodes, and writes so much and created the show
with me, wrote this episode; and he wrote the “A” story like
it’s a drama. I don’t think it’s like a very special “Family
Ties,” but I think you might get choked up at the end.
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| Q:
During the writing process, how much is, "this is really
hilarious" versus "this is kind of shocking and funny?" |
| Sarah
Silverman: We never go for shocking if it’s not funny to
us. I mean, I think that we go for aggressively dumb, but I
don’t know because that has been what really makes us laugh
in the room lately, like the biggest compliment you can get
is, "That is so … dumb."
But shock—I don’t think we go like, "Ooh, that will
really shock them." I mean, does anything shock anyone
anymore? I think we kind of hopefully reach beyond that a
little bit with our fart jokes, no. But, I think that this
season there is actually growth and character arc and stuff.
Hopefully still just really dumb and funny and silly. And
anything smart you can infer from it from you smart brain
is great. I don’t know that it’s pure shock value. I don’t
know how long that can last, and maybe that’s what you’re
saying. I feel like we’ve got a really, really full season.
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| Q:
The first couple episodes of this season have more of a cinematic
tone that reminded me a lot of Jesus is Magic. Was that deliberate
or no? |
| Sarah
Silverman: No, not deliberate, but I think cinematic certainly—I’m
glad you guys got some of the episodes. I think the first one,
“Proof is in the Penis” feels really cinematic to me. We just
haven’t been on the air in 14 months, and that kind of kills
us in our hearts, but we just really wanted to start with this
one because it just felt like for people who are fans of the
show, we know you’ve waited a long time, and here’s something
that may be kind of special, or worth the wait; that has slow
reveals, and just feels maybe like something special. We love
that episode. |
| Q:
Can we expect big musical numbers all season long, or if this
is just the first couple of episodes? |
| Sarah
Silverman: No, no, no. There’s musical—it’s very uneven.
We’ve just kind of went organically with how it went, so there
are a couple episodes that have no music. There’s an episode
that has, I think the second episode has three songs. It’s just
kind of however it works with the story and however we’re moved
when writing the outline.
Usually in the room, someone will just start, get a snag
in their brain of a—there’s an episode where Steve writes
a song that becomes famous called, "I’m glad you hurt
your hand because Brian like hurts his hand." That just
came from the writer’s room of me. Rob Schrab hit his hand,
and I was in an extra obnoxious … mode, and I just started
going, "I’m glad you hurt your hand. I’m glad you hurt
your hand." Then Rob wrote it into the script.
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| Q:
If you didn’t make it into comedy, what would you be doing? |
| Sarah
Silverman: I would probably work with retarded adults. |
| Q:
That sounds like a good episode for your show. Maybe season
three? |
| Sarah
Silverman: You know what? It is an episode this season,
but it’s not exactly that. It’s less. But there is an episode
this season where I get in trouble for peeing in a mailbox,
and I get sent in to work at this place called,"The Little
Buddies Program" which works with retarded adults; but
I think I’m paired with a mentally handicapped adult, and she
thinks she’s paired with a mentally handicapped adult, and we’re
so condescending to each other that we never realize who’s retarded,
because it’s like, "Do you like ice cream? I love ice cream!"
"Do you like ice cream? I love ice cream!" |
| Q:
Since you were nominated for an Emmy, has that created higher
expectations for yourself, and for the show now? |
Sarah
Silverman: Well, we’ve always had high expectations for
the show. Not in terms of accolades, but we work on it the same.
I think everyone that works on it has this awesome love for
it. I know it’s so corny when people say that, but we really
are like a group of friends. We stand on the set, not just the
cast and the writers, but the crew. With all our huge, crazy
insane gaps in production, all the crew works their way back
to the show because we just have such an awesome time. We stand
around going, “Oh my God. We’re making show business. Like this
is going to be on TV.”
It doesn’t seem fair to get to do what we all love so much.
We didn’t expect it so much, that none of us knew they were
even announcing the Emmy nominees. I just woke up to my alarm
clock and looked on my phone, and saw like eight calls, and
I thought there was an emergency. It just never occurred to
us ever, and then it was so great. We couldn’t believe it.
I couldn’t believe it, and we’re so happy that anyone, especially
the hoity-toits, would appreciate our show as much as we do.
It was awesome.
It would have been great to have some sort of momentum with
the other award shows in the season, but we weren’t eligible
for any of the others; Golden Globes or SAG Awards, or any
of that stuff because we weren’t on the air in 2009, at all.
It will have been 14 months since the last time we were on
when we air on February 4th. You’d think we were “The Sopranos”
or “Lost” with these gaps, and not a 21-1/2 minute show about
fart jokes, but we’ll take it. We really love it. We love
being together and making this super-super dumb, funny, silly
show.
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| Q:
Do you think Conan got a raw deal? |
| Sarah
Silverman: Yeah. I mean, I feel pretty confident that he’s
going to end up on top somehow, but totally. I just can’t get
my head around it. The guy has done so much for NBC and for
Late Night, and has made such a success. If you remember, any
talk show starts out super slow. No talk show has ever been
a hit from day one, ever. And to switch from 12:30 to 11:30
seems like no big deal, but it is. It’s a whole different animal.
Not that I know, but from what I know, from what I see. To have
him move his whole family and hundreds, over a hundred, hundreds,
maybe, of staff, taking their whole lives and moving to L.A.
Getting their kids in schools out here, and then only giving
it six months? That’s … crazy. They should never be able to
use the words, "The NBC Family." Ever.
But, that said; people go, "Well, he got so much money,"
and that’s nice that he got money, but he loves that job.
Also, he got the money, but the rest of the whole crew doesn’t,
and he’s got …. He’s a good guy. I think they all probably
feel real displaced, and abandoned. And they have every right
to feel that way.
I can’t help but hope that he lands at FOX or somewhere,
anywhere. Wherever he lands, he’ll always have an audience.
I just thought that that was a real … move on NBC’s part.
And then on top of it, of course the last week or two of the
show was just amazing, you know?
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| Q:
How difficult is it for the writers to create the show in your
voice? |
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Sarah Silverman: I’m there the whole time. I’m one
of the writers. There’s just like five of us, so there’s never
a problem. There hasn’t been much turnover; it’s been like
Dan Sterling and Rob Schrab and I, and then John Schroeder,
tall John, he’s 6”10”, and Harris Wittels and Chelsea Peretti,
and our writer’s assistant, Eric Schaer, who’s written two
great scripts in the past two season. But, it’s just a small
group. We work out of my apartment usually the first three
weeks, because we never have office space when we finally
get picked up.
So it’s very intimate. My hands are all over it, but also,
the guys know me so well; sometimes more than I know myself.
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| Q:
So it’s literally a case that sometimes you go, "I wouldn’t
do that," and they go, “Yes, you would,” and you go, "Yeah,
maybe I would do that." |
| Sarah
Silverman: Yeah, sometimes, but sometimes it’s such a fine
line that I’ll go, “Eew, I don’t want to do that.” And I’ll
do something so very similar to it, but it’s just one of those
things that there’s no rule book. It’s just kind of by feel,
and that’s it. Some writers get far more excited about—you know,
I mean, writing for Jay is super fun—like everyone has such
a specific voice; between Laura and Brian and Steve and Jay.
I know Dan Sterling loves writing Jay’s stuff, his professions
of love—is that right? Professions? |
| Q:
How many episode ideas have been shot down by the network? |
| Sarah
Silverman: None. None. I could complain about Comedy Central
about plenty of things, I guess, but they are super cool about
the most important thing, which is content. They may have gripes
or they might complain or try to lure us away from a topic,
but they never put their fist down and say, “No.” It’s awesome.
They really have not meddled with any of the content we like
to do.
They’re great about it. They never really sensor us, and
even the standard and practices people can make is crazy,
but really as long as we can give them a way to defend it,
they’ll let us go. They just always need to know how to defend
something that they’re worried about.
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Q:
You are now being televised on The Logo Network, and the commercial
is hilarious. How do you feel about your gay fans?
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| Sarah
Silverman: Well, they saved us. We wouldn’t be on the air
if it wasn’t for Logo. Not that that’s the only reason why,
but I mean—it’s funny because I was talking to some gay friends
of mine, and they were just like; it’s not just that Steve and
Brian are gay, it’s just kind of the subversive humor. It’s
that kind of like absurdist stuff is I guess up, the cup of
tea of a lot of people in the gay community; maybe more in general
than the straight community. I don’t know, but yeah. I’m just
so grateful.
I know that gays belong to Kathy, but any fall over, I’m
not going to take. I’m just so grateful to Logo. They didn’t
even think twice about helping us, and in terms of the content,
never, ever had even a request. They really are amazing over
there, and I can’t express how grateful we all are for them,
because we wouldn’t have had a third season without them,
and they asked for nothing in return. The fact that their
end of the bargain is that they get to air the episodes, it’s
like really? It’s amazing to us, too. Its so win-win and we’re
just so grateful. So totally grateful.
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| Q:
What kind of cool things can fans expect from the DVD of Season
2, Volume 2 that’s coming out soon? |
| Sarah
Silverman: Hold on, I’m going to look at it right next.
I just got a box of them. First of all, let’s see. It’s the
rest of Season 2. Season 2 got split up by the strike for us.
There’s also a bunch of animated shorts. There’s some great
behind the scenes stuff. We did audio commentary.
The behind the scenes stuff is really cool on it, actually,
because we always just have somebody around with a flip camera
or something, backstage, and they grab us between scenes,
or whatever, and make something cool out of it. And then,
just all the episodes.
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| Q:
Can you talk about the animated shorts? Like how you did those? |
| Sarah
Silverman: Those were done by this guy named Justin Roiland,
who is an amazing animator and writer, and Rob Schrab knew him
from Channel 101, which is a website that they do together.
It’s a live show here in L.A., too, where people make TV shows
that are under five minutes. I don’t know if you know anything
about it; it’s pretty spectacular, and it’s how I met Schrab,
and Dan Harmon—the three of us created this show together.
There’s just this crazy pool of talent, and Justin does
this great animation, so we just kind of gave him free rein,
and he would write cartoons and stuff, and grab us in between
scenes to record them. And that’s that.
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| Q:
We all know, your character on TV uses bad language, rants unashamedly,
and is full of sticky-sweet self-importance at the best of times.
But in real life, honestly, is there anything taboo to you?
Some subject or person that you won’t touch; and if so, why? |
| Sarah
Silverman: Well, I don’t like to make fun of people, real
people, and the only times I’ve done that is if it’s a Roast
or stuff like that. You know what I don’t like? When people
ask me that, I always think of the same thing, which is I don’t
like jokes about fat women. I don’t like fat jokes about women,
and it’s just not tit for tat, you know? Like fat women in white
America don’t deserve love, and I don’t think that’s anything
to make fun of, you know what I mean? It’s a bummer.
Actually, there’s a quote from "Family Guy," that’s
so brilliant about that, that encapsulates exactly how I feel
about it, which is like—oh, I’m not going to say it right,
but it’s—you know the father, Peter, and the son—what’s his
name, Chris? Chris is like, "Well, we’re fat," and
Peter goes, "Chris, fat guys aren’t fat. Only fat women
are fat." It’s just so true in our society, and it bums
me out to make—it never makes me laugh, it just makes me go,
"Ugh."
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| Q:
So you’ve never encountered that in the show as a parody? |
| Sarah
Silverman: No, I mean if you ask me if there’s anything
that offends me, probably that. I guess if something isn’t funny;
and of course, funny is totally subjective, but you hope that
if something’s offensive, it’s more funny than offensive. If
it doesn’t tickle your funny bone, then all that’s left is offensive.
We can only go by our own personal gauges, you know? |
| Q:
We've heard you talk before about your battle with depression.
I was wondering, when you’re in that dark place, how do you
continue to think and write comedically? |
| Sarah
Silverman: You know what? I think the best answer to that
is just practice. Practice, you know, when you do it every day,
and it’s part of what you do. You’re able to channel it through
whatever mood. And also, I think my sadness or my happiness,
or any kind of manic thing; it forms whatever kind of work I
do in that day.
Sometimes it’s hard. I have dark times. Honestly, I’m pretty
much a happy person, and I like being happy. I like being
content. I think people that romanticize it don’t really know
how bad it is, like sadness.
There was a time, actually—you know when you’re just like—I
don’t cry a lot, but I felt like tears had been filling me
up for days, and I’d been pressing down. Then I was shooting
one morning, a bunch of the …, so I’m in my pretend bed with
my real dog, and we’re about to shoot all the good nights,
and it just happened where literally Rob said, "Action”
and I went to talk and nothing came out. And just like tears.
I felt so—and it was just one of those things where I said,
"I’m sorry. I’m sorry." It just almost became totally
physical. I just was like—and they were, “It’s okay. Let’s
take five.” And half of me is crying, I don’t even know why,
and half of me is crying because I just feel so bad for holding
things up.
It’s just so cool, because my real life sister plays my
sister, and she was there to do the scene after that, and
so they were like, "Do you want us to get Laura?"
And I was like, “Yes.” And she came in and she got into my
pretend bed, and just rubbed my hair and told me stories about
when I was little, and it just made everything better. It
was just such a sweet, weird, bizarre, but homey, almost,
experience. And then I felt better, and I was like, “I feel
better, but I’m afraid to call the crew back, because I know
when I see their faces, I’ll cry. Because they love me.”
But we ended up making the day, no problem. It was good.
It was just one of those big cries that you don’t expect every
couple years, and it was so weird. But I think of it almost
fondly, because I just love those guys so much, and to have
my own sister right there was nice.
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| Q:
How much is the character of your sister like with you and your
sister’s relationship in real life? |
| Sarah
Silverman: Similar, only she, I think, I hope to think we
take care of each other more. More of an equal—Laura is actually
in real life older than me, but I make her my younger sister
because; one, she looks … really good, and two, I decided it
would be funnier for me to be mooching off of my little sister.
But there’s four of us, four girls, and we’re all really
close. Sometimes I just feel bad for people without sisters.
I remember one time I was having a fight with a boyfriend,
and I was like forwarding all our emails of stuff to my three
sisters. And we’re having a whole conversation by email about,
"If he said this, and you should …," and I accidentally
copied him in one, and he literally saw the whole thing. But
I was just like, "You know what? Whatever you say to
me, you should assume that all of my sisters can hear. That’s
how you should talk to me. I don’t take it back. That’s how
it’s going to be. So watch it."
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| Q:
How do you challenge yourself when it comes to the shows? Is
it something like,"I’m going to do this, this season; or
maybe I should challenge myself to go outside this box this
season?" |
| Sarah
Silverman: Gosh, I can’t say that I’ve really stood outside
of it and thought about it, and deconstructed it to that level,
but it just kind of happens, haphazardly. There are like, two
episodes this season. You’ll only notice it if you look for
it. In one of them, it’s just kind of a fading thing, but I
have a real thing with necks. Like, why isn’t there bone there?
There’s so much important stuff in there. Like in your neck
and your throat. It’s crazy that evolution didn’t put something
there to protect it. It makes me mad.
So anyway, there’s like some times when I talk about it,
and it became into this episode where I get hit with a Frisbee
in the neck, and it becomes my obsession. Actually, I think
it’s the second episode, if you were sent it. It turns out
that, oh yeah, I have to be looking up and not anticipating
a Frisbee is about to be thrown into my neck. My biggest fear.
It’s mean, it’s not … with dolphins, or whatever that was.
And just in terms of acting? This is really corny, but I
try to—as corny, or as absurd, or as aggressively … stupid
something is, I know that I try to play it real, because without
that contrast, if I was acting like, "Whew, I’m crazy,"
there would be no contrast to how stupid the material is.
I am kind of aware of that
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