(December
2006) Former PCM'ers Lauren & Kelsey spoke to Sean
Masterson, comedian and successful TV actor on shows like
The Drew Carey Show. Plus, see how he answers the million
dollar question! Maryanne or Ginger?
Lauren: Hello Sean,
how are you?
Sean: I'm good and how
are you guys doing?
Kelsey: We're good.
Lauren: We're done
school, so that's good.
S: Fantastic. So where
is the 302 area code?
L: Delaware, ever
heard of it? Haha.
S: Yeah, actually I
played there, I toured with Second City years ago, I was
on the road for about two and a half years, and we toured
mostly the northeast.
L: Interesting, so
when did you join Second City?
S: Oh years ago, let's
not put a date on it, haha. Let's just say it was the 80's
and I was wearing balloon pants.
L: What was the audition
process like for Second City?
S: I auditioned and
out of 200 people and they were looking for 4, it was really
intense. It went from about 8am to 6pm. When I was there
I was there with like Steven Colbert, Steve Carrell, Bonnie
Hunt and Joel Murray. I couldn't sleep the day before and
I was like out of my mind. Everyone else was from different
improve groups and they didn't pair you up, you just went
up with someone else and they could all look at one and
other, they all had the fix in. I didn't have that, I went
up with a guy who was just so bad that I looked like a genius.
I was incredibly lucky, he kept making all these bad choices
and I kept doing a dead pan to the audience.
L: So who else made
it beside you?
S: Um, I'm not sure.
You have to realize is that the people you're in Second
City with, you're in Hollywood with. You see each other
at social things and it becomes like a college. There's
at least 2 or 3 bbq's or hangouts a year that you'll all
see each other and keep in touch. In a weird way it's like
getting a second family, or a cult.
L: A very cool experience
I'm sure.
K: So, most recently
you co-wrote a show that's airing on VH1's broadband channel
called the Home Purchasing Club (HPC).
S: Yes, I did.
K: Whose idea was
it to write the show?
S: That was my idea,
I created the show. I do improv's with Jonathan Mangum a
lot, we do the Drew Carey improve all stars shows together,
and we used to throw in a home shopping thing as a bit and
it always got a huge reaction because it's the one format
that everyone's in on the joke. So one night we literally
were getting such a huge reaction every time we went back
to it and I murmured to him, because it's such a simple,
obvious idea, am I missing something here, is there something
really endlessly evergreen about this venue. He said no,
it really is and we worked on it. And it became really apparent
as we were watching this home shopping that the products
are only one part of it, it's the fact that everything's
always positive and they make these terrible corny asides
to one and other that's supposed to humanize them. It's
fascinating.
K: Yes, we watch
the show and it is just hilarious.
L: We were crying
our eyes out.
S: Thank you. What I
love is when the old woman fell from the stage. I remember
the director going "Oh no, we can't use that"
and I said oh no of course we can. The stage hand goes "Man
I was watching here I knew she wasn't gonna make it".
L & K: (Laughter)
K: So after you did
the first episode of HPC did you get the response you were
looking for?
S: Yeah. It took us
about a year to really place the show, because we did the
pilot we paid for it ourselves, we called in every favor
in the world. I was really lucky because the director owns
a post facility so he could do the editing which is hellishly
expensive. We did it from like midnight to 5 o'clock in
the morning. It really was kind of like the Andy Hardy version
of let's put on a show. Everybody threw in, people are only
now getting paid for it and stuff. We did a big premiere
night and you do this dance in Hollywood where they love
you, and come in for meeting and this is how we want to
change it. The big thing is everybody wants to do a behind
the scenes and I kept saying I gotta be honest with you,
nobody gives a sh*t. I mean we could do it and you could
have like the you know Mary Tyler Moore, who's the normal
person, and everyone else is like the Ted Knights character
but really what's funny about this is that it continuously
goes. If you watch the actual home shopping, you start laughing
at these people and after a while you have so much f*cking
respect for these people because you try talking about a
bullsh*t piece of plastic for 45 minutes.
K & L: (Laughter)
S: It's crazy. You know
I'm an improviser I'm supposed to be able to make this stuff
up, and I'm gonna tell you, after a while you just start
nodding your head and going this is unbelievable. It just
takes so much effort.
L: How do you do
that when writing the show, how do you get your inspiration
for all of these skits?
S: you know it's whatever
makes us laugh. But what's really funny is there's a real
difference between what the idea of something and the execution
of it. So a lot of ideas we had to throw away because it's
a one joke thing. We have one coming up called hot dog juicer,
which is just hilarious, and then we added a second thing
called the carp dead cooking pans that take water out of
food because you know you could drown. It's almost like
if you could come up with a piece of logic and argue it,
you know which is the best of all improve, then you know
you've got a winner. If its just the one joke that theres
nothing else to, you're kind of screwed.
K: So moving back
in time. The Drew Carey Show was obviously a very well received
show, really popular. What was it like being a part of that?
S: Well I only wrote
on it for half a season. But I do the live shows with Drew
and I did a guest star on it. It's amazing to watch what
happened with Drew, because Drew is clearly the nicest guy
in show business. I can't even go into enough Drew Carey
stories about truly what a good guy he is and it's because
he's not from Hollywood and he's got a whole different take
on what success is. It's really interesting to watch a show
go from a really small show to a huge, huge, show to the
final year when ABC was done with it and burned off his
episodes during the summer. It's bizarre because that's
probably the most expensive year of the show and you kind
of scratch your head and go "in what other world would
that happen in business?"
K: So I saw that
you co-wrote a screenplay with Ryan Stiles, who was also
on Drew Carey.
S: Yeah we're written
a few.
K: This one "Live
Bait" is being produced by Universal and Imagine Entertainment,
so when can we expect to see that?
S: Well it's pretty
dead right now. We were writing for Eddie Murphy at one
point, we wrote it, it was original, it got bought. The
story there is hilarious, we gave the screenplay to a guy
who does breakdowns to find out how much it would cost to
get it made independently. He passed it to Mel Brooks, who
loved it, and said I don't do other people's screenplays.
It eventually got passed to Steve Otakurk who is Jim Carrey's
writer, loved it. Once he loved it we were golden, and the
thing sold like the next day and then we did these drafts
and they were great and then we lost our executive and it
was replaced and that person was a middle aged woman who
didn't like college humor. She kept going "Well you
know it's a funny scene but I just imagine my children going
to see this" That's just what I want to hear, I can't
write for your 9 year old, I'm sorry. So eventually they
tried to do it as a Jack Black feature and whatever. Actually
a few of the elements were kind of lifted by Dude They Stole
My Car or whatever that was. But you never know, it's a
really funny script.
L: What would you
pinpoint as your own unique comedic style?
S: Um well it's funny
we say in the Improv All-Stars that everyone has their own
superhero talent. Mine is to say the most inappropriate
thing at the absolute worst moment.
L: Sounds like me.
S: What I learned with
this project, with Home Purchasing, was I loved doing characters
and wild stuff and people really love me to just do straight
stuff. The straighter the better so if anything that's what
I've kind of learned, my t.v. persona is supposed to be
as straight as possible. Deadpan.
K: So what were you
like as a child growing up? Did you always know that you
wanted to be a comedian?
S: Yeah, it's like a
weird niche you find yourself in, where you're not just
a writer because you have personality and you can actually
sell your jokes, you're not just an actor because sometimes
you can improve things and smart writers like that because
they ultimately get all the credit and defensive writers
hate you for that. The greatest luck I've had was a friend
in Second City, he saw me struggling and said you shouldn't
be worrying about getting a small part in this movie or
trying to get into that show, you should be in Chicago honing
your craft. And I always appreciated that they saw that
and I got that guidance because it changed my life.
L: You write, you
act, you're a comic. Which one do you enjoy the most, or
are they all the same to you?
S: Ego wise nothing
beats doing a live show. We're going to be doing shows at
the MGM Grand with Drew over Superbowl weekend, it's like
our eighth year of doing it. Ryan comes out for those, Greg
Proubst, everyone that was on "Whose Line" and
it's really an amazing thing, it's great to get up and say
whatever you want. It's just an incredible thrill. It's
also really satisfying to write something. When I saw "One
Size Fits All", it was really weird to write something
for two women and have it kill like that.
L: You like doing
live stuff?
S: I like doing live
stuff because there's something about pulling a laugh out
of an audience when there was just silence and you do something
and it pulls a gigantic laugh. It's great.
L: Do you ever get
nervous?
S: No, Yeah, Yeah I
do. I'll tell you when I get nervous is when I haven't had
any protein for some reason. I run on protein, it sounds
so weird but it's true. I've had like pancakes and I go
out, I have shows where I'm like an audience member. I'm
like wow that's funny or I wish I said that. You don't really
get nervous, it's a good kind of nervous. More of a what's
going to happen tonight as opposed to an oh can you do it.
L: Any rituals you
do, eat a candy bar?
S: I always kiss Kathy
Kinney's cheek.
K: Aww!
S: For goodluck
K: So, what do you
do on your days off when you're not writing or doing live
shows?
S: Try to do everything
my wife puts on a list for me. There's really no days off,
with mobile phones and PDA's everyone has a 24/7 world and
as an actor that's what you get paid for. You don't get
paid for the days you actually work you get paid for the
days you're not working and you might get working. I've
been doing spots on Jimmy Kimmel and they call me at 3 o'clock
in the afternoon and I'm down there at 5:30 shooting something
and it's on the show that night. You never know when somethings
going to pop up. There's really no days off, Sunday is the
day off and you can't reach anyone. That's the official
you really can't call anyone on this day.
L: Who were or are
your inspirations now or when you were growing up?
S: Doug Kenney, who
created the National Lampoons. Harold Ramus, Steve Martin,
Abbot and Costello, The Three Stooges, Jerry Lewis, basic
stuff. There was a guy at Second City named Jim Fay who
passed away and he could blow Robin Williams off the stage.
He had a photographic memory. Guys like that, who have unique
special abilities, that you don't have and you go gosh that's
amazing.
K: This is our million
dollar question: Maryanne or Ginger?
S: Well they really
serve two different functions. Probably Maryanne!
K: That's the resounding
answer for most men. Ok, but Maryanne, or Jeannie from I
Dream of Jeannie?
S: Well that's not really
fair, the girl next door against the girl who calls her
guy master, what do you think? Come one it's like, those
kind of shows really f*cked my generation up. It's like
on tv you live in a bottle and do whatever I want.
L: I've got one last
serious question. Out of all the shows and movies that you've
been a part of, what's your favorite?
S: I did some stuff
with Christopher Guest, anything where it's a true collaboration
and its about having fun. I can't pinpoint one, it's more
what's in an environment that makes it fun.
L: And the people
you work with I'm sure.
S: Absoutley, everybody's
done gigs that are a drag, the ones you want to do again
and again, like the live ones we do with Drew, are the ones
that are so much fun, you can't wait. Two weeks before the
gig you start getting excited about it. It's when you're
working in an environment where it's really positive and
the people are top notch, they all have the same goal which
is to have fun and do good work.
L: Well thank you
so much for taking the time with us today.
S: Absoutley, I'm glad
you guys like the show. We just got our pick up from VH1
so there's more coming.
K: Awesome, we look
forward to it.
S: Have a great vacation.